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Author Topic: New Region Alighnments  (Read 815 times)
JustACheerFan
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« on: December 03, 2009, 10:11:20 AM »

OMG! According to the recommended region alignments for next year, Regions Three and Seven are MONSTERS!! Ola in the same region with Northgate, Starr's Mill, McIntosh, and Whitewater? John's Creek, Lambert, the Hooch, South Forsyth, and Woodland in the same region? Wow...let the bloodshed begin.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 10:35:45 AM »

Wait, did the Hooch and South Forsyth drop down to 4A or did John's Creek and Lambert jump up to 5A?  Monster indeed!
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cheerfan2762
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 11:06:53 AM »

Johns Creek & Lambert moved up. AAAA will be amazing next year.
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JustACheerFan
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 01:43:15 PM »

Hooch and South Forsyth moved DOWN to AAAA while John's Creek and Lambert moved UP to AAAA. Game on!  Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 08:30:28 AM »

What a stupid way to dumb down the state championships. Sad   When is GHSA going to figure out that you can't make regional cheerleading alignments mirror football alignments.  If performance is somewhat the same as this year, the placement of the teams in 7 & 3 AAAA means that you'll leave 1/2 of the top 10 teams in the state sitting at home next year.  A look at your scores for 5A & 4A vs. the new alignments should prove that easily.

Looking at region 3AAAA. . . .how many state contenders do you see there?  Whitewater, McIntosh, Starr's Mill and Fayette Co. all within 20 minutes of those schools and they now have Union Grove, Ola, Upson Lee and Jones Co in their region. . . along with Northgate?  Why aren't these Fayette Co, & Clayton Co. teams competing with more teams within their geographic area?  What are the GHSA officials thinking?  Same thing for Region 7. . what is the sense of putting the Hooch and John's Creek in with Woodland?  Then look at Regions 4, 5, & 6 and their levels of competition/success at state. . . What's up with this? Huh  Are we arranging regions so that teams that never seem to make it to state due to lack of performance ability get there at expense of those programs who year in and year out perform at the highest levels? 

State Championships are supposed to be a competition to determine the best.  Also, Regional competition are supposed to give the cream of the crop their tickets for the state competition.  If you look at the regions, you'll see that we're going to distort the level of competition between the cream of the crop and those squads who would have not made state to begin with if our regions were balance properly.  And remember, Regional wins don't guarantee a state winner. . . (ask Northgate where they placed at regionals in 2008).  We could even have weaker regions have their cream stay home due to those infamous "judgement" calls on inversions that may or may not be there.  If alignments remain the same, we will truly see not only a weak state championship next year, but a mass outcry as to the weak judging that has constantly been a complaint of those who attend competitions throughout the state year after year. 

It's a well know fact that teams with access to all-star programs and tumbling facilities in the Metro Atlanta area and other "metropolitan" areas produce teams with more diversified performance components than many in more rural teams in the state.  This doesn't belittle rural schools, it just confirms that to excel to the highest levels, you have an advantage when you have the ability to train more extensively.  We should not have the teams that excel being handicapped by a dead wrong system.  GHSA needs a MAJOR OVERHAUL in their processes to determine regional alignments in all sports.  There is nothing that should mandate 1 sport being handcuffed by another just because of football's revenue base. 

COACHES. . . You should all wearing out your emails to GHSA as a group through your coaching association to push through changes to keep our sport as competitive as it has grown to be.  DEMAND changes to these regions.

GHSA. . . .Join the rest of us in the new century by deciding to quit trying put all the square pegs in to the oval football formula.  Adjust these regions NOW!

SEAN. . . You're travel schedule should be easier at next year. . . you will be able to go back and forth between 3 & 7 AAAA to see the best in the state. . . because once you get to Columbus, you'll be missing 1/3 - 1/2 of the top teams in the state.  At least you'll finally get to see all the good Columbus area teams vs. 1/2 of the truly good teams at state next year.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 11:28:31 AM »

Hey, Cheerfanz123, wanna help out with the next podcast? I think I'd end up quoting you a lot, so why not take part?  I think we could get a good roundtable discussion going!
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 04:25:15 PM »

Let me know when you try to do this and I'll try to fit it in my travel schedule.  I'm sure that many feel as I do, but they may feel their comments will fall on deaf GHSA ears!

Also. . . I want to clarify (soften) my comment about judging.  We have a lot of good judges in our GHSA system.  It's just unfortunate that we have a level of inconsistancy in rules interpretations between the different regions and judging associations that lead to confusion sometimes as to what the judges are actually looking for.  Also, it is very clear that more training is needed for all judges, especially for the safety and newer judges so that we are all "seeing" the same thing regardless of where the competitions are held.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2009, 06:35:11 PM »

There may be little that can be done to change the region alignment, but that doesn't mean that the state championship has to be run the same way.  Why not make some of the competitions throughout the season regional and require teams to attend certain competitions in their region and set up a way to have different "wins" along the way that could be compared like all other sports and not just leave the end decision to the performance on a max of three performances (regions, sectionals, state).  If you had, say, 4 required regional competitions, you could set it up so that the best records in AAAA went to sectionals, instead of just 4 from each region.  It would take some planning, some scheduling, and you would have to rotate where the "regional" competitions are each year to share the earnings, but it might make for better competitions each week throughout the season.  Right now, each competition throughout the season before region is really just a money making practice.  Cheerleading could make state run differently, even if the regions were aligned with only football and basketball in mind.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2009, 10:55:03 AM »

Why are we regulated to only have 16 teams in State? They should up that number to about 24. Yes, it would take longer to judge, but teams with more talent and a strong region will not have to sit at home when teams with lesser talent and a region title are competing.  Still have your Region Comps, but let more people into Sectionals and also into State.

This may or may not be a good idea...but hey, I remember when only teams #1 and #2 from Region went to State.  Lets be thankful for what we have!
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