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Based on the routines, do you feel the correct team won?

Yes
5 (20%)
No
20 (80%)

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Voting closed: November 20, 2014, 04:38:36 PM

Author Topic: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA  (Read 63973 times)

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2014, 12:36:33 PM »
I didn't say running tumbling difficulty.. I said running tumbling execution..... Two different scores...

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2014, 12:48:31 PM »
I hate to sway to one side but "cheerjudge" has a point.  The execution score can play a huge piece.  Again, I would be able to tell so much more with video links.
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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2014, 12:53:13 PM »
Difficulty is out of 6 points, execution is out of 8 points.... So if you have full team fulls (6 DOD) but only get 1-2 in EXE.... Then you can mathematically be beaten by a team with only forward rolls (1 DOD) but that gets 8 in EXE.... 

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2014, 12:55:36 PM »
but would that be real fair to give a team that didn't work hard to gain the skill a state championship title. Pierce Countys routine was packed and very well executed.

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2014, 01:02:06 PM »
They all work hard...keep that in mind.  Even Calhoun works hard. 

The issue you need to pick here is with judges...not with teams.


*Edit* - Please refrain from using the idea that Calhoun shouldn't enjoy this, or they are the "losers", or not deserving, or posts will be modified or deleted.  Think of how your child, that worked just as many hours, has no control of the event, would feel reading some of this.  Parents, because that is who mostly post on here, remember, you are the role models.  Even though you hide behind a screen name, you should know better.  Athletes, represent your school better than that.  Don't bring disgrace.  All you are doing is adding more blood to the water.  If you want to pick at something....try to pick apart judges and the rubric.  That is fine.  Back it up with evidence.  Simply calling out that "they don't deserve that" is childish.
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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2014, 01:08:46 PM »
I didn't say I agree with the rubric... Just that I understand it.

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2014, 01:18:53 PM »
There is NO WAY Calhoun out tumbled Pierce in any way. Execution included. Aony one with any knowledge of cheer could plainly see that. So whatever Calhoun out scored Pierce in, it obviously could not have been tumbling or execution of....  With this being said. It's over. It was a bad call. Neither team could control that. Sad for Pierce but next year will hopefully be just and fair. God bless!

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2014, 01:24:05 PM »
I just want a link hahahahaha

No seriously though, it really could have been a little bit here and there.  How much was it again?  One point? 

Does anybody know all 5 judge scores for both teams?
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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2014, 01:26:04 PM »
It's on GHSA website

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2014, 01:29:33 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153295137380830   this is for Pierce ( I finally found it thanks to a friend of a friend hah)

Calhoun is on youtube


**EDIT** It say's content is unavailable.  Will you provide link to Calhouns?

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2014, 01:30:38 PM »
So the problem I have is two judges tying them.  and then the spacing of an 88 to a 97 (for pierce)

Calhoun's looks pretty consistent so I can't argue there.  But for Pierce....why is it all over the place??

You can't argue those in the end though because they were dropped. 
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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2014, 01:31:05 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153295137380830   this is for Pierce ( I finally found it thanks to a friend of a friend hah)

Calhoun is on youtube

Thank you...I will wait to take a look until Pierce pops up because it won't do me any good until I can see both :)
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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2014, 01:41:48 PM »
Calhoun's is a much clearer video but you can clearly see the routine of both teams...please give your opinion! :)

and yes the high/low were dropped...but how convenient was that? lets be honest...

how can one team have consistent scoring and one be so inconsistent? hmmmmm

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Re: Saturday - STATE CHAMPIONSHIP - AAA
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2014, 01:44:45 PM »
Calhoun's is a much clearer video but you can clearly see the routine of both teams...please give your opinion! :)

Pierce's video does not work.
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